Hallo,
wir wissen, dass das hier nicht besonders viel mit Namen zu tun hat, aber vielleicht könnt ihr uns ja trotzdem helfen.
Für den Deutschunterricht müssen wir eine Debatte zum Thema "Soll der Neubau von Minaretten in Bayern zukünftig verboten werden?" vorbereiten.
Jetzt würdet ihr uns sehr helfen, wenn ihr uns einige Argumente PRO/CONTRA nennen oder uns zum Beispiel sagen könntet, wie viele Moscheen ohne Minarette es in Bayern gibt.
Natürlich haben wir auch selbst schon einiges gesammelt.
Vielen Dank!
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Ich habe doch gesagt das das meiste nicht meiner Meinung entspricht aber es sind halt Agumente die Leute bringen.
Die meisten Moslems die in Deutschland leben sind Türkischer Herkunft!
Das ist doch kein Argument:
"es passt nicht ins europäische Stadtbild" !
Die Türkei gehört auch zu Europa!
Genauso wie Bosnien-Herzegowina, Albanien, Serbien, Bulgarien & Zypern, wo der Islam weit verbreitet ist.
Und als ob nur Türken Moslems wären.
Ach und wegen dem Geräuschpegel.
Kindergärten wurden auch schon deswegen geschlossen.
Sowas ist doch lächerlich.
Ach ja, der Lärm ist mMn wirklich das Contra Argument schlechthin. Wenn der Heini anfängt zu krähen, da sträuben sich mir die Haare. Da lausche ich lieber dem "harmonischen" Glockenläuten.
Ob die durch die Minarette tatsächlich besser integriert werden.. na, ich weiß es nicht.
Zu Mashe möchte ich sagen, das in der Schweiz nicht der Neubau von Moscheen, sondern von Minaretten verboten wurde, was ein riesiger unterschied ist.
Ausserdem finde ich das dies wohl das Schweizer Volk entscheiden darf, wenn das Deutsche Volk solche entscheidungen treffen dürfte, würde das Ergebniss vielleicht ähnlich aussehen.
Pro:
-toleranz anderer Religionen
-integration von Aussländern
Con:
-In der Türkei dürfte ein Christ sienen Glauben nicht weiter gleich und frei ausüben.
-es passt nicht ins europäische Stadtbild
-Minaretten könnten durch ihren hohen Geräuschpegel Anwohner stören
-Haspredigten können gehalten werden
Das sind Argumente die ich mir vorstellen könnte,natürlich entsprechen die meisten nicht meiner Meinung.
Also in der Türkei ist das mit den Kirchen nicht so einfach. Nicht einmal öffentliche Kreuze sind erlaubt. Das orthodoxe Patriarchat darf seine theologische Hochschule nicht führen usw. Das hat aber nichts mit dem Islam an sich zu tun, sondern mit dem Laizismus, der in der Türkei seit Atatürk gilt - richtig gehört "Laizismus", das heißt: nicht die Religion soll über das Volk herrschen, sondern das Volk über die Religion - das hat zur Folge, dass in der islamischen Türkei Frauen in der Öffentlichkeit kein Kopftuch tragen dürfen(!), jede Religion von der staatlichen Religionskontrollgesellschaft Dianet kontrolliert wird, ja und eben der sunnitische Islam so selbstverständlich ist, wie in der Schweiz das "Christentum" - das war lange Zeit ein Problem in der Auseinandersetzung mit den Kurden, die mehrheitlich Aleviten sind. In andern islamisch geprägten Ländern geht es etwas anders zu. In Syrien z.B. gibt es echt bimmelnde Kirchen - auch Neubauten, nebenbei auch emanzipierte christliche und muslimische Frauen, aber auch echte Unterdrückung von Frauen (in christlichen wie in muslimischen Familien). Nur dass die Assad-Diktatur halt überall den Daumen drauf hat, und auch die Christen immer freundlich ja und Amen zur Diktatur sagen müssen.
Auch in Ägypten gibt es christliche Kirchen. Dort sorgt aber die Muslimbruderschaft für ähnliche Zustände, wie sie demnächst in der Schweiz herrschen werden.
Ja schon, aber hier gibt es auch Moscheen. Aber ein Minarett ... ich bin dagegen.
Und nicht alle Muslime sind automatisch Ausländer.
In der Türkei GIBT es katholische Kirchen, also erst informieren bevor man Unsinn schreibt lieber User tzck!
Das ist genau die Intoleranz, die wir in der Debatte eigentlich nicht vertreten wollten.
Warum dürfen die bei uns und wir bei denen nicht.
Ich mein ja nur! Wenn die Toleranz erwarten, dann sollen sie selbst auch Toleranz zeigen!
Ja, danke, klasse Tipp.
Das ist ja auch unsere Meinung, nur hilft uns das in der Debatte nicht viel!
Wir wären sehr dankbar, wenn wir wirklich ein paar Argumente bekommen würden.
Es ist eine unglaubliche Frechheit dass in der Schweiz der Neubau von Moscheen verboten wurde!
Und jetzt sollen Minarette in Bayern auch verboten werden? Sagt mal, was fällt euch eigentlich ein?! Eine bodenlose Frechheit ist das!
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